271: Who You Are Always Wins ft Ashley Stahl

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with host artist Miriam Schulman

Are you tired of the conventional career advice that promises a one-size-fits-all path to success? Get ready to challenge the status quo, shatter limitations, and discover a world where trial, error, and embracing uncertainty lead to triumph. Ashley Stahl, a counterterrorism professional turned career coach, speaker, and author of You-Turn, joins us for an impactful conversation on navigating career switch-ups and embarking on creative endeavors with no roadmap. If you’ve ever questioned your direction, felt the urge to explore new avenues, or wondered if unconventional could be the key to exceptional, this episode is your ultimate compass.

“Don’t do what you love. Don’t follow your passion. Do what you are. What I’m really saying is, what’s your zone of genius?”- Ashley Stahl

In this podcast, you will discover…

  • Embracing trial and error is essential both in your career and creative pursuits. It’s okay not to have all the answers upfront, and experimentation is a natural part of growth and success.
  • Focus on what skills come naturally to you and contribute to your unique energy. Consider the alignment between your work and your core values. If the work violates your values, it’s important to reassess and pivot.
  • Be open to transition and adaptation, be willing to learn from both successes and failures, and remember that there are many paths and iterations to your growth and fulfillment.

“Your core nature, I define, is the energy and essence that you bring to the room. It’s how the room changes when you walk in, and I think that your career is built on your core nature.”- Ashley Stahl

“Happiness is not for the faint of heart. It’s for the person that knows how to say no. It’s for the person that knows how to get messy. We are being way too perfect in our career. We have way too much shame around the process of learning.”- Ashley Stahl

Links Mentioned

📕 Ashley’s Book: You-Turn, by Ashley Stahl. Are you tired of that lingering feeling inside of you telling you perhaps it’s time to make a change? Do you want to feel passionate, re-energized, and clear about your career? Sounds like you’re ready to make a You Turn!

🎙️ You Turn Podcast w/ Ashley Stahl: Ashley goes deep with insightful, inspiring guests each week to help you elevate your confidence in work, love, and life.

📖 Artpreneur, by Miriam Schulman: The go-to handbook for artists aspiring to turn their passion into a sustainable and profitable career. This book offers inspiring stories and practical advice that empower artists to embrace a confident mindset and follow a clear path to creative and financial freedom.

📚 Schulman Art Book Club: Check out all the books mentioned on The Inspiration Place Podcast!


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About Ashley

Ashley Stahl is a counterterrorism professional turned career coach, international bestselling author, Fortune 500 spokesperson, meditation teacher and expert on intuition, personal branding, and fulfillment. Shark Tank star and New York Times bestselling author Daymond John calls Ashley’s book You Turn: Get Unstuck, Discover Your Direction, Design Your Dream Career, “the ultimate guide to discover your path in the workforce.” With more than 7 million views, her TEDx talk on intuition and fulfillment is ranked amongst the top 100 TED talks on the Internet, and her self-development show “The You Turn Podcast,” with 2 million downloads, is ranked amongst the top 100 mental health shows in the United States. Ashley is fluent in French, and has a Master’s degree in War Studies from King’s College London, as well as a Master’s degree in Spiritual Psychology from University of Santa Monica, and a triple major in Government, History and French from University of Redlands.

What’s a You Turn, you ask? It’s that critical moment of transformation when you become radically honest with yourself about some core area of your life that isn’t working the way you want it to. It’s that moment where you realize the only thing harder than stepping into the unknown is staying stuck where you are. Ashley teaches us to discover our core skill set, understand our core values, clarify our core interests, and to become our own coach.
Watch Her Viral TEDx Talk, How to Figure Out What You Really Want.

About the host, Miriam Schulman

In case we haven’t met yet, I’m an artist and founder of The Inspiration Place, where I help other artists learn how to profit from their passion. Through online classes, business coaching programs, and a top-ranked podcast, I’ve helped thousands of artists around the world develop their skill sets and create more time and freedom to do what they love. My signature coaching program, The Artist Incubator, helps artists go from so-so sales to sold-out collections.

After witnessing 9/11, I abandoned a lucrative hedge fund job to work on my art full time. Since then, my art and story have been featured in major publications including Forbes, What Women Create, The New York Times, Art of Man, Art Journaling magazine as well as featured on NBC’s “Parenthood” and the Amazon series “Hunters” with Al Pacino. Check out my best-selling book with HarperCollins Leadership, Artpreneur, how to make money from your creativity, wherever books are sold. When I’m not in the studio, I split my time between New York City and a farmhouse in the country. I’d love to invite you to check out one of my free resources for art lovers (of every passion level) at schulmanart.com/freebies

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Miriam makes this book easy to read. And there is a lot of useful information to use to advance your arts career! Good value for the money too!

~ Lee berry


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I’m Miriam Schulman, your curator of inspiration.

I inspire art-lovers to reconnect with their creativity and profit from their art. Whether you paint simply for the joy of it or you’re serious about selling your work, and you’re ready to stop putting yourself on the back burner...You're in the right place. I've done it and I can inspire YOU how to do it too.

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