THE INSPIRATION PLACE PODCAST
Speaker 1: It’s the Inspiration Place podcast with artist Miriam Schulman. Welcome to the Inspiration Place podcast and art world inside, a podcast for artists by an artist, where each week we go behind the scenes to uncover the perspiration and inspiration behind the art. And now your host Miriam Schulman.
Miriam Schulman: Hey there, it’s Miriam Schulman here and welcome to the Inspiration Place podcast! I am so happy to have you here today. We have an incredible lineup of artists who are going to be sharing what it really takes to grow an art career. I’ve invited artists from the Artist Incubator program and the Inner Circle to share how they went from feeling like either they’re just starting out and they don’t know where to go, or maybe they were already selling, but their art business has plateaued and how they overcame their fear of raising their prices, landing media exposure, and getting into new art galleries, you’re going to hear real transformational stories, the mindset shifts that made all the difference, and the strategies that help them grow their audiences and their income without burning out or sacrificing creative joy. Now, whether you’re just getting started or you’re looking to take your art business to the next level, you’re going to love these honest, inspiring conversations. By the way, if you already know that you want support just like this. Head on over to SchulmanArt.com to learn more about the Artist Incubator while enrollment is still open. And now let’s dive in.
Miriam Schulman: Here is the first question for my panel. We want to hear what your art business was before you joined the artist incubator. Then we can start with you.
Sangeetha Gopalakrishnan: Sure. So I’m. I’m a baby in the art world because I quit my job last year, and I thought all I needed to do was sit in my studio and paint.
Miriam Schulman: I want to hear from Christine next, because Christine is someone who had been very successful selling on Instagram and knew she had to make a change, so she wanted to share about that. Christine.
Christine Mighion: Yeah, so I’ve been a jewelry artist for 21 years now, and I originally modeled myself after a designer, so I was doing more production work until I got burned out. And then I kind of discovered that I really thought like an artist and really enjoyed one of a kind. So that’s what I was doing. And Instagram was fabulous for the longest time. And then it wasn’t. I just really wanted to work with someone more one on one, and we’re in a small group to really have some eyes on my business and give me feedback.
Miriam Schulman: Yeah, and just so you know, Christine is not only in the incubator. She’s also part of my inner circle. Okay, let’s hear next from Brett.
Bret Neathery: When I started trying to do art full time, I realized pretty quickly that I was in over my head and that I, you know, although I’ve sold in the medical device world for almost 30 years, um, I knew nothing about art. I knew nothing about what I needed to do. And I went to Miriam and I, um, did a one on one with her, and I said, look, I need an actionable plan that’s going to help me sell. What do I need to do? And what it allowed me to do was to be laser focused and really focus my energy and time right now, which is limited to making sure everything I do is promoting and selling my art.
Miriam Schulman: One thing I want to ask you specifically, because I do remember you had gone through boot camp last time we did it in January, right? And you were the reason you didn’t join the incubator. And what happened was Brett ended up joining as just inner circle as he felt that or he was worried the program was really for beginners. Do you want to share if your ideas about that has changed or not? Or what do you feel about the strategies that you’ve been learning so far for beginners or for everybody?
Bret Neathery: Well, I wanted that small group where we can really share ideas and cultivate our art careers. And then also that one on one time I get with you, Marion is invaluable. And that’s that. To me, that’s worth all the money that you invest in this program is you’re getting laser focused with your knowledge that you have for this market. But, you know, I’ve found, you know, I thought that would be the most valuable part. But I found that our inner circle groups are also equally as as valuable because I learned so much from the other artists on the group.
Miriam Schulman: Fantastic. Okay, I want to hear from Megan next because. So there’s really two questions. Megan. First is, what was it like the year before? The year before you joined the incubator?
Megan Maberry: Um, the year before, I was doing it mostly sort of for fun with a dream of a like, maybe five years from now, I can make this my full time business. And I’ve been a high school art teacher for the last ten years. I work full time and I was listening to the book on my commute. I have an hour commute each way, and first I listened to Artpreneur, and then I found out there was a podcast, and then I found out about the boot camp and it just made me think it will take me five years to do this by myself, but if I want to accelerate it, I better do something about it. And that’s what’s happened in the last year since joining.
Miriam Schulman: And you have been in an accountability pod as well. Correct? Yes. I have been in a pod and we meet at 4 p.m. on Wednesdays in my group, which means I’m often in the car driving. And three other women in that group are in Australia. So sometimes one person is on the bus. I’m driving. So we’re just all over the place. But we made it work.
Miriam Schulman: That’s fantastic. Okay. And how is that helped you?
Megan Maberry: Definitely. And it really held me accountable to whatever I chose to do. I didn’t want to show up to the pod and be like the person who didn’t do anything towards their business, which is okay too. Sometimes you have those weeks, but I always wanted to be able to come on and brag a little bit about my successes.
Miriam Schulman: Great. Okay. All right. So next I want to hear from Martha. Tell us why you decided to join. What was life in your art world like before that you felt that you needed help?
Martha Brane: Um.
Martha Brane: Well, first of all, I already was in a gallery and selling it.
Miriam Schulman: Okay. And what do you think has changed since you’ve joined?
Martha Brane: Oh, wow. It’s it’s it’s been an amazing, amazing journey. I have gone now from 1 to 3 galleries. And I’ve also now am, uh, dropping my first collection to a business to business national print firms. I am elated and just know that there’s only going to be a whole lot of better things for me. So it’s nothing but painting more bluebirds.
Miriam Schulman: Chris, I want to hear from Chris. What was life like before incubator.
Chris Holt: Um, well, I think life before was, um, discovering that I’m an artist and that I could paint, you know, paintings and that people like them, but it certainly wasn’t a business.
Miriam Schulman: Tell us about how the pod helps not just you, but everyone else in it.
Chris Holt: Um, I think it’s just such a great place of sharing where you feel like you’re all on the same page. You’re all in this together. You get an opportunity to to really share what’s winning and what’s, you know, needing work on you to be worked on.
Martha Brane: Great. I saw results right away from just the having the updated website portion and get that all in tune. Now it looked really professional.
Miriam Schulman: Wonderful.
Bret Neathery: I saw almost immediate results. I was telling you about my pricing, and you stop and you go, wait, you need to raise your price. And I was really reluctant. And I said, you know, I don’t live in a market where I think people can afford that. And you’re like, yes, they can trust me.
Miriam Schulman: I said it already. But remind everybody where you live because they probably forgot.
Bret Neathery: Uh. Springfield, Missouri. So. Heart of the Ozarks. I was trying to sell you Miriam on why I shouldn’t raise my prices. And I realized that pretty quickly. And and so I did exactly what you said. I raised my prices, and sure enough, I sold two paintings that, uh, you know, were paintings that I would have sold for much less probably half, really. Um, and, and got, you know, more money. I and that was the biggest aha moment for me was I was able to see that, you know, you, you, you can, you can lead a horse to water. But until you know, they drink, it’s sometimes hard to realize that there is there is that next step you can take to be successful in this business. And that’s and that’s why I, you know, signed up with Miriam is because I just didn’t know what I was doing. I had no idea. And I, I thought I did have a better grasp on it, but I and it’s been a great opportunity for me to be able to, um, to see some of these results manifest.
Miriam Schulman: Yeah. Do you mind sharing the most expensive painting you sold this year?
Bret Neathery: Yeah. 5000.
Miriam Schulman: So in Missouri, right? You didn’t have to go out of state to sell it?
Bret Neathery: No, it was local person.
Miriam Schulman: There we go. And like Brett said, we can be very married to these stories that we tell ourselves because they feel real to us. And the smarter you are, and the more creative you are, the better you are coming up with these stories that keep you small and keep you safe. Because our brains have evolved for survival, not goal achievement. So it can be hard to tell yourself a new story. Megan, how soon did you start to see results?
Megan Maberry: Um, pretty immediately I had bought the domain and I had a plan. So I hurried up and put my website together and started building my email list. And I would not have done those things without feeling like I needed to do them. I’m an excellent planner, but my follow through is not that great sometimes, so it lit a little fire under me to get going. That’s fantastic. Thank you. Christine, how about you? How soon did you see results?
Christine Mighion: Um, I would say pretty quickly. Um, and just kind of to go back to what you were saying, one of the reasons that I chose you, because there are a number of people out there that work with jewelry artists, was I had taken some of those courses. I’ve worked with some of those coaches, but it was all about scaling. So I absolutely agree with that. For me, um, one of the biggest things that made a difference right away was email marketing. It was something that I probably had about 450 people on my list, but I had a nice following on Instagram and I only emailed probably twice a year, maybe three times, if I was desperate for a sale. Um, I didn’t know what to talk about, I didn’t. The idea of weekly email just scared me. And working with you really nudged me in that direction and helped me think of how to just share myself and my story with the people that, you know, were really interested in my work, and every email I send, I always get sales from day one.
Miriam Schulman: That’s beautiful. And sometimes you send more than one email a week.
Christine Mighion:I do like crazy.
Miriam Schulman: Because you make money when you see them.
Christine Mighion: Yeah. And some of it, like I did, do a series, um, for emails during the week where I was just making a mini collect. I mean, a very small collection of just like, I don’t know, maybe seven pieces. So I made about $6,000 just on that.
Miriam Schulman: Okay. Sangeeta.
Sangeetha Gopalakrishnan: Yeah. For me, uh, two things that helped, uh, see results immediately. One was changing the website that I had been using on a platform, which is not good. That’s for five months ago when I joined. And that was really life changing. And once I changed that website and people started seeing this face of me on it with my values and what I do, it actually changed how people perceived me as an artist. Until then, I was this, uh, artist who was trying to hide behind my canvas. I was not ready to come forward. And then the other thing was to announce to the whole world that you’re an artist. You were an engineer in the past, but now this is your identity. You have to confidently tell the world that you’re an artist. So those two things really accelerated my sales and I started immediately seeing sales coming, and I actually made back the money I paid for incubator and inner Circle.
Miriam Schulman: That’s amazing.
Sangeetha Gopalakrishnan: Yeah. And for someone who has no art background, no art marketing background, this was the perfect program. This is what I needed. And I reached here without knowing that I needed it. And it it really changed my life.
Miriam Schulman: I love that. Okay. I want to bring Megan back onto the spotlight again. Megan, would you consider yourself like a textile artist? I mean, textile artist is a pretty broad category, but you’re not a painter.
Megan Maberry: Yes. I’m a I work sculpture early. It’s basically wearable art. And I do use a lot of textiles, recycled textiles, vintage textiles, and some of my pieces. It doesn’t really matter what you’re doing. The ideas are all the same. The prospecting ideas are the same, the production ideas are the same. You just apply it to whatever media you’re using.
Christine Mighion: That was a concern of mine, too, you know, with with you working mostly with painters and at the same time a draw with that. And, you know, our pricing is very, very different. But you quickly pushed me to increase my pricing and help me kind of sort that out and also within that time really hone my messaging. So it created more value with that. And that was really, really helpful. Absolutely.
Miriam Schulman: Yeah. We do have a lot of fiber artists in the group. We have felt artists, we’ve had macrame artists, we have ceramicist, we have sculptures. I would say that if I were to take a pole, that paint is probably the majority of the type of artist who comes here. But then we also have digital artists, photographers, mixed media people who do different kinds of layering. So all kinds of artists.
Christine Mighion: One of the things that I think was really, really helpful was just the mind shift, the mindset shift around finances and around what you bring to it. Because it was easy to put up a wall and say, this is what other people are making. And no, you know, I don’t want to go above that or I can’t do that. And so really, shifting your mindset around Monday, money was was an important part of this.
Miriam Schulman: I’m really glad you brought that up because people were saying, well, I don’t want to charge more than the other artists do at my fair or in my gallery. Martha, I know you might have something to say about this.
Martha Brane: Yeah. You, um, you were very helpful for me in the pricing, too. And from the very first time that we talked, you said you need to raise your prices. And I was just like Brett, I was reluctant. I knew that in order to get into higher in galleries, my pricing needed to be up. And so that was another reason why I just I upped them. I felt when I looked at my work that it was worth more, but I was reluctant than when I said, okay, I have to do it for another reason other than I think I should. I guess I decided that and that made all, just made all the difference in the world for me as far as getting in other galleries. So don’t hesitate to raise your prices.
Miriam Schulman: Okay. All right. Thank you Martha. So how much time does this program take?
Megan Maberry: Well, I did a lot of it in the car on my commute, so I’d say I tried to dedicate personally 2 to 3 hours a week to looking through training or reaching towards those goals of things I learned through training. But because I also have to set just studio time to work also. So kind of my window during the week is from 6 to 8. So some of that time I spend on growing the business and some of that time I use on production. And then I have, uh, on the weekends I teach workshops, I do a lot of guided workshops. And then Sunday I kind of make up whatever I didn’t get a chance to do in the week.
Miriam Schulman: Great. And then Brett, who also still working full time, that has sold $10,000 in art since he started. Tell us how much time this takes for you.
Bret Neathery: You know, I think I try to stay hyper focused on the things that are going to help me make money and to increase and drive my, my business, because that’s what we’re really developing here is a business plan that can, you know, make us money. Once I do go full time to make sure this is I’ve got everything I need.
Miriam Schulman: Chris, how much time does this take?
Chris Holt: You know, um, for me, I think this kind of takes as little or as much as I want to put into it. So, um, I feel really well supported and, like, I’ve got my tribe and I’ve got the place that can help me get my answers. Um, but I would say, you know, half an hour a day is kind of. I’m thinking about things, writing things down, and it’s becoming more just a part of how I do things, how I practice what I do.
Christine Mighion: Yeah. When I think of, you know, I’ve been in business for a while and so much of that was scattered and just implementing little things. I just was spinning my wheels trying to figure out what am I going to do next. And for me, having that plan in place and just knowing these are the key things that I need to hit each week. And and I chose what those were with, you know, Miriam’s guidance with that. But she helped me kind of hone down the, the most important, um, financially viable task to do that in itself. Freed up other time.
Miriam Schulman: Yeah, because I’m not about hustle culture. I’m not about encouraging people to waste time on things that are not going to create big results. It’s always about and you guys have made me heard me say this before. It’s like the pumpkin plan. If you want to grow a giant pumpkin that’s going to win the prize at the fair, you gotta cut all the pumpkins off the vine that really aren’t or are taking energy away like they may be. Okay. Pumpkins and a lot of us are reluctant to do that. Like we’ll see things that we think are sort of helping, sort of bringing in a little catch, but we don’t think about how much energy it’s taking away from us. So that’s always important to manage, not just your time, but your energy. Just burning out doesn’t help anybody. Martha, I think you might have something to add here.
Martha Brane:I, I actually use, um, about half of half of my morning and doing the the emails and getting everything launched and set up and answering emails. And I’ve spent a good part of my time doing that. And then I work on many days on just my art, because I was working on the collection that’s just dropping, and now I’ll spend a lot more time on building more clients to see my work.
Miriam Schulman: How much work do you produce a week?
Martha Brane: Oh, I usually get a couple of large paintings, and those are, um, 48 inch square pieces done a week. Somewhere in there, maybe 2 or 3 in two weeks, somewhere in that thing. I’ve spent a lot of time and I, um, just get such a momentum and flow that things just really come together for me. And I’ve always been a fast worker, and I work in acrylics and they dry quick, and if I don’t like what it is, I can change it quickly and move on. And and normally I have somewhat of some sort of plan and, and so once I have that, it’s a matter of mixing and getting the colors just right and things. But that’s a, that’s about what I produce.
Miriam Schulman: And what the point that I think is important to get across to people is that you are not sacrificing your studio time in order to work on the business.
Martha Brane: No. Absolutely not. And not only that, I spend a lot of time going out cycling and doing a lot of other things. So my my day is usually finished by two in the afternoon or three. And then there’s days that I’m off cycling with my grandson, or cooking or shopping or all of those things too. So no, I have a full life, and it’s, um, wonderful.
Miriam Schulman: Thank you. How much time does marketing take in a day.
Christine Mighion: For me on a daily basis? Maybe an hour at the most. And that can even fluctuate to less because I’m going to do Instagram posting. I have only a couple places that are really important for me to show my work, and I’m going to. Well, I should say I email. I have different segments that I email each week, but I even have that scheduled out for a few weeks. And when I sit down to do that, then gosh, that just takes me. I wouldn’t even say an hour to do that, because I’ve also learned from Arrium how to use chat GTP to really help kind of refine some of those emails while keeping it in my voice, so it’s stuff that I would probably do anyways, as far as Instagram, because I’m always hopping on there. Um, yeah, it doesn’t take that long.
Miriam Schulman: Yeah. And you’re planning on spending the summer at the lake?
Christine Mighion: Yeah, and I do that every year, so my production time goes down to three days a week, but it’s all manageable.
Miriam Schulman: Yeah. Sangeeta, as a new artist who’s just building your email list, how much time is this taking up for you?
Sangeetha Gopalakrishnan: For me? Um, my intention for my new life is that I spend as little time on my computer because I spent two years staring at a computer all day. And I’m a planner painter. So my goal is to spend as much time outdoors painting and bringing inspiration back to my studio. So I try to do very, very little computer work. And I would say three hours a week, 3 or 4 hours a week. And for Miriam’s program, one of the things I try to make sure I do as the number one goal is to attend all her live sessions, which are only four hours a month pretty much. And most of the time I’m in my car. I might be on a camping trip. You know, I’m just attending her as Miriam Sessions or the Inner Circle sessions. So for me, it’s different for everyone. For me, the live sessions are so valuable and I try to implement the things I learned from those. And it takes only four sessions two for Sean, two for Miriam. And if you can only implement things that you learn from those and get your questions answered, it’ll make the biggest difference. For me. That’s that’s what has made the most difference. I don’t spend hours, you know, promoting, pitching. I mean, I don’t do that. I only take 1 or 2 crucial things, she says and I really follow up. I really like to listen to what she says and the things that she says will make you uncomfortable. But if you do it, you’ll see results. I’m one of these people who is scared of, um, you know, the marketing part, you know, asking for things that’s so hard for me to ask for what you need. So when I got a commission to paint this beautiful landscape, that opportunity came, and I just just made a verbal contract, and it came home, and I was talking to Miriam, and I said, I got this commission. And I was like, yay! And then she said, did you get the money? I was like, no, am I supposed to take the money? And she said, yes, you’re supposed to do it right there and then. And I was so worried about asking this client for the deposit, but she really pushed me. And I sent an email and within minutes she paid me like. That was like the best advice and push I got. And it was not a small amount. So I was so happy that you kept me accountable.
Miriam Schulman: Yeah. I could see you were, like, open for a push too like that you needed it I don’t push people. If I think that if you push them, they’re going to be more resistant to doing it. So, like, I’m very. I always have to walk that dance. Sangeetha, you go to all the ask room anything calls,
Sangeetha Gopalakrishnan: I do.
Miriam Schulman: Tell us. Tell us about that. Do I leave any questions unanswered?
Sangeetha Gopalakrishnan: She answers everyone’s questions and it is so useful because we’re all stumped at every point in our art marketing career. And you need a coach. And she’s the coach. That, and I’ve never felt ashamed. It’s such a welcoming environment, so I encourage everyone to do that.
Miriam Schulman: Selling is selling. Brett, can you come in? Because you are somebody who has a lot of experience with sales, and for you, it’s been kind of helping you translate it to the art world.
Bret Neathery: Yeah. For sure. I mean, that’s I mean, I’ve always believed that, you know, you’re not born to sell. You have to learn. It’s a learned trait. And, you know, that’s why one of the reasons I came in with Mariam on her program, because I needed help. I was I was just sort of I felt like I was treading water all the time, just keeping my head above water, and I wasn’t making any progress. And so what this, as I mentioned earlier, what this what this did is it really allowed me to refocus. I was doing some things right, but I wasn’t doing. I was doing a lot of things wrong. And that just made me realize, okay, this is all worth it because it got me so narrowly focused and doing the right things a lot better. And you know, the I, I would say to this is, um. This program could work for anybody selling, you know, any type of art, in my opinion.
Miriam Schulman: If I if I may, I want to just make sure people feel like they got value today. And I think they would love to hear one of those things you were doing wrong.
Bret Neathery: That was completely ignoring my email marketing, and I was not developing that list. I really had no idea what to do in that regard because I’ve never done that before. I’m very much an introvert. I don’t like to do that. And I’m in sales, you know, so it’s it’s crazy, but it’s proven to be invaluable.
Miriam Schulman: Yeah. And I want to offer a reframe because I know, Bret for you, you don’t feel that selling and marketing is icky because you’ve been doing it for other people for so long. But there’s many artists here who who feel, oh, marketing. Cringey. So the reframe that I want to offer you is not that you have to be marketing or selling all the time, but you need to be sharing all the time. So the sharing, whether it takes the form of your sharing. Some people feel comfortable in social media, even though if you’ve listened to me for any length of time, you know that there’s not much result in that sharing through email sharing in person sharing just by talking to the people you know in your life about what you do.
Christine Mighion: So one caveat is I only saw online, I don’t do the shows, and there were a lot of nos that I wasn’t going to do. And whenever things would get, you know, when I take on a more negative mindset and my list wasn’t growing as quickly. I mean, my list is still rather small. I go through and clean it, but the people that are on my list want to be on my list, and I think that’s really important to remember. And Miriam says this all the time. It’s like, these are the people who are interested in you, and it only takes one of those people to make that purchase and that that’s one of those mindset shifts that I think is so important. You know, right now it’s a slow time for me, but I still so, you know, it’s still it’s I’ve got the core people that really love my work.
Miriam Schulman: I love that. So for those of you who have read the book, is it worth it to join the incubator?
Megan Maberry: Yes, I listened to the book first and something that really stood out to me is there was a part where you said, you can’t go to the Olympics without a coach. And I think that’s exactly what I was trying to do. I was trying to figure out how to become the best gymnast, but without any assistance. And that’s what made me start listening to all the podcasts. And that’s when I found out about the boot camp and moved forward from there.
Miriam Schulman: Okay. Does anybody else feel they want to answer that question? If you read the book Sangeetha you read the book before joining, is that right?
Sangeetha Gopalakrishnan: It’s a more condensed version. It doesn’t have everything that you’ll find in the incubator. It’s like a just a preview and highlights. If you like the book. Then once you come into the incubator, you’ll be like, oh my goodness, this is so much information. And like Miriam always says, it’s like the luxury hotel. You don’t have to use everything. If you’re going to an art show and you need to know what you need to do, she has it there. The training or on publicity? She has this training for that. So you’ll find like something as large as a book for each topic in the incubator. So I think it’s highly recommended.
Sangeetha Gopalakrishnan: I like the way you put that before you go though. I do want you’ve had a lot of press success. And don’t forget to give you the only joined this program in December. Share the successes that you’ve had with publicity.
Sangeetha Gopalakrishnan: Publicity. It was like I had no idea an artist can just go to the press and say, hey, create a feature about me and I thought it’s only for celebrities. But then I wrote this story about myself and my, you know, my career and my life. And I already got to published, you know, articles. And I have three others on the way, just because I was so encouraged by all the training that Miriam has on publicity and, uh, it’s I’ve seen so much result after the features came out. People are reaching out to me and, you know, it’s making you like more popular as an artist, which is that creating that brand part.
Miriam Schulman: Did you say that the names of the publications you’ve been featured in?
Sangeetha Gopalakrishnan: Yeah, there’s one pioneer magazine, and then the other one is Irvine Standard.
Miriam Schulman: Very nice, very nice. What is the number one thing you did to grow your audience based on what you’ve learned?
Megan Maberry: Before I joined, it was just strictly word of mouth and it it wasn’t as busy. It wasn’t as crazy as it is now. So I might get somebody call me once or twice a month so-and-so. And so but you’re always kind of one relationship away from like some sort of break. And so even though I’m sending these emails out regularly now, not every time is it a sale. But what it is is it’s putting thoughts into people’s minds. And then that person’s sister in law will call me and say, hey, I work for this magazine that’s local, and we think you would be a great feature because Marty, you’re also coming up. So I never even talked to the lady from the magazine in person. She heard from somebody else who was on my email list or out in the community. And then after I did the magazine, then ABC news, the local affiliate, called me and it was based off of that magazine. So it’s just everything you do to kind of put yourself out there. It might not be the immediate person that you meant, But people are out there. You want people. You want your name in people’s mouths out there.
Miriam Schulman: It snowballs, right?
Megan Maberry: I didn’t know that I needed mindset coaching, but then once I started doing it, I felt like it did really change my approach because I think I tend to be my own person getting in my way. And the mindset coaching has really helped that.
Miriam Schulman: Okay. Thank you. Um, and Sangeetha you go live, right?
Sangeetha Gopalakrishnan: I do yeah. I especially the first few sessions I, after I joined, um, I was having this identity crisis as an engineer or an artist. You don’t have to convince anyone about your artist identity. Even. As for my personal growth, it was incredibly useful. You know, everyone has issues about pricing. Uh, people have issues about how they think about marketing.
Miriam Schulman: What advice do you have for people who are thinking about joining the Artist Incubator, or how to get the best results if they have already joined? Sangeetha you can go first?
Sangeetha Gopalakrishnan: Just take that one thing and really implement it and it might be the most uncomfortable thing.
Christine Mighion: I really wanted to join for the Inner Circle. I wanted the coaching, I wanted. You know, I wanted to go deeper, and I wanted that guidance. And directly having someone say, do x, Y, and z. And yeah, I made my money back right away.
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Miriam Schulman: Sometimes you have more money than time and you need to like you can buy Time by doing something like the Inner Circle.
Bret Neathery: Oh, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. For me, it was, you know, I felt like I was spending way too much time on things that I didn’t need to be spending time on. And you said very clearly, okay, this is what you need to do. And you just went through and we checked all the boxes. And, you know, I think you get what you put into anything. And this is but but the ability to hone in and really become focused on what’s important in growing your art business is what Miriam, I think is the best at.
Megan Maberry: I would say once you get in, immediately join a pod and immediately start listening to the mindset coaching. It’ll start to sort of come to you and clarify. And it’s just like anything else, once you start doing it, it gets simpler. I don’t get on and do marketing every day now. I batch it in chunks and I had to learn that. And you can’t learn everything all at once, but you can join a pod and you can do mindset coaching. So jump in there and start. Start there.
Miriam Schulman: Wonderful. Okay, what last words of advice do you have for someone who’s thinking about taking the leap and joining the incubator?
Martha Brane: This program leads you through every step, and just like one of the other gals was talking about, I felt overwhelmed to begin with too. But the mindset is critical. If you’re even thinking that, maybe this won’t work for me, it’s your mindset that is the most important thing. And when you get your mindset straight, which is not, doesn’t take that long at all. And just follow what Miriam has to say. What she has in her program, you will be successful, I promise you.
Miriam Schulman: I hope that you enjoy these incredible stories of transformation and what’s possible when you take your art seriously as a business. Us. If today’s episode inspired you to take the next step, you can learn more about the Artist Incubator program at SchulmanArt.com. That’s where you’ll find the tools, the coaching, and the community to help grow your art business with focus, confidence, clarity and commitment. Until next time, keep creating. Keep sharing your work and remember your art matters and I will see you next week. Same time, same place. Until then, stay inspired. Bye for now.
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