THE INSPIRATION PLACE PODCAST
Sarah Matthews:
Don’t hold back. Don’t be afraid. Don’t be afraid of making mistakes, because that’s the whole part of learning about yourself. Because I’ve seen so many people in the past who say to me, “I don’t want to buy such and such, or I don’t want to do…” because I’m afraid I’ll make a mistake. Well, that’s the whole point.
Speaker 2:
It’s the Inspiration Place Podcast with artist Miriam Schulman. Welcome to the Inspiration Place Podcast, an art world insider podcast for artists by an artist, where each week we go behind the scenes to uncover the perspiration and inspiration behind the art. Now, your host, Miriam Schulman.
Miriam Schulman:
Well, hey there, passion maker! This is Miriam Schulman, your curator of inspiration. You’re listening to episode 192 of the Inspiration Place Podcast. I am so grateful that you’re here.
Miriam Schulman:
Today’s guest is very accomplished, very, very accomplished. She even has a masters of fine arts from the Corcoran College of Arts and Design at George Washington University in Washington, DC. And she also teaches art at the college level. Yet, she too has struggled in the past to call herself an artist. However, now she carves out time for herself every day to create, even while raising her four girls. It hasn’t been easy during the last few years. Now if calling yourself an artist or carving out time for your creativity has been your challenge as well, then you’re going to want to check out my other podcast episodes that I’ve done on managing your mind. To help you sift through all the shows, I’ve curated a mindset playlist just for you. To get your hands on the mindset playlist, go to schulmanart.com/playlist. By the way, we also curated two other playlists that you might want to check out. But for today, just look at schulmanart.com/playlist and look for the mindset playlist.
All right. And now on with the show, let’s bring on today’s guest. Today’s guest is a printmaker and book artist. Her work has been exhibited in the US and is part of the permanent collections of Yale’s manuscript library, George Washington University’s Gelman Library, the University of Puget Sound in Sanford University. She’s currently the Alma Thomas fellow at the studio gallery in Washington, DC, a YouTuber, and a designer for art foamies.com. Please welcome to the Inspiration Place, Sarah Matthews.
Sarah Matthews:
Thank you for having me. This is so exciting.
Miriam Schulman:
I’m so glad you’re here. The way I found you, Sarah, is that I was asked by Karen Abend. I’m saying her name, right? Oh my God.
Sarah Matthews:
Abend, yeah.
I was asked to be part of her sketchbook school. The first thing I did when she asked me is actually I said to her, “I’m only going to participate if you have a diverse group of artists,” and she actually did not disappoint. I am so impressed by the diversity. She has artists from Israel, Berlin, India. I’m so impress-
Sarah Matthews:
All over the world.
Miriam Schulman:
All over the world. I didn’t invite everybody who’s participating by the way, but I was very interested in talking to you, Sarah. So that is how I found you, because I am a fellow sketchbook school artist.
Sarah Matthews:
Revival. Sketchbook Revival.
Miriam Schulman:
Thank you. I gave the wrong name of that too. I get everything wrong. I am the queen of malapropisms. Really bad.
Sarah Matthews:
It’s okay.
Miriam Schulman:
I call my kids the wrong name. I call my daughter my sister’s name all the time.
Sarah Matthews:
Yeah. My oldest daughter gets called Anna. She’s my youngest sister. Then all the kids get called different. I have four daughters. They all get mixed up and they always like, “Ma that’s not my name.”
Miriam Schulman:
I’m always calling my daughter, my sister’s name. She’s like, “Do you remind me of your sister?” I was like, “Well, yes. That’s why this is happening.”
Sarah Matthews:
Hello.
Miriam Schulman:
Obviously, especially when you act like that.
Sarah Matthews:
Right. Sounds familiar. That’s why I call you that. Okay.
Miriam Schulman:
So you have four daughters. How old are they? What’s the age range?
Sarah Matthews:
19, 13, 11, and 5.
Miriam Schulman:
Okay. I think the five-year-old is the one I saw on your Instagram.
Sarah Matthews:
Yes.
Miriam Schulman:
So cute.
Sarah Matthews:
She’s my hip buddy. She’s always, well, she’s not here right now because she’s coming home from school, but she would normally be right here sitting next to me.
Miriam Schulman:
That never stops happening by the way. The 24-year-old doesn’t even live here and sometimes walks in through the door.
Sarah Matthews:
Right. You’re like what?
Miriam Schulman:
What are you doing here? I thought you moved out. Oh, I have to do some laundry.
Sarah Matthews:
Right. Exactly. I’m just here right to eat.
Miriam Schulman:
And it’s not that I do her laundry, but she doesn’t want to get the quarters or whatever, whatever that is. So it’s easier to come home. So I was very excited by your Instagram visit that you did to the Baltimore Museum of Art with Latoya…
Sarah Matthews:
Latoya Hobbs. Oh my gosh.
Miriam Schulman:
Latoya Hobbs. Oh my God.
Sarah Matthews:
It’s just breathtaking.
Miriam Schulman:
Let me just set the scene for our listeners who don’t know you. I’m not as familiar with this artist that well either, but Sarah does carving in her work. Your art foamies is a very accessible way to do carving, and a lot of the work that you’ve done has been in carving. Latoya Hobbs, is that an artist that you had been familiar with before? I had never heard of her. I’m not sure how well-known she is.
Sarah Matthews:
Oh yeah. She’s very well known, but she’s a part of the black women printmakers, or no, black women of print. There’s I think or six or seven of them. I think if you go to her Instagram page, you could see that she did this full portfolio of all the founders of the black woman of print. So she did their portrait and each one is stunning. But I met her through Big Ink Prints. Big Ink Prints is run by Lyle and [inaudible], and they travel across country helping people to print their large-scale prints. So basically you get to do a call for entry, fill out the form, save what you’re going to design, and they pick 10 to 15 people to help them print their large block.
They bring and travel along with their etching press. It’s called the big tuna. It’s really big and they can run anything. I think the largest is 36 inches or three feet by six feet, because they have an extension. Like when you get a table, you have an extension, they have an extension to the etching press so you can make it as long as you want, which is amazing.
But I met her and her husband because they both carved a block and been following her ever since. And we are both colleagues at MICA, the Maryland Institute College of Art. She teaches drawing and I teach printmaking for artist books. Yes, so that’s how I know her.
Miriam Schulman:
You teach at the college at the college level, is that right?
Sarah Matthews:
Yes.
Miriam Schulman:
Wow. You are so impressive by the way. I’m so impressed. How did you get your art in Yale permanent collection? How’d that come about?
Sarah Matthews:
That was actually a piece that was a collaborative bookwork that I did before I graduated from the [inaudible] College of Art and Design. I think there was eight of us in the class and we did this book called, gosh, it just ran out of my head. Exquisite Feature is what it was called. It called it that, is because it was an exquisite court. So one person started the work, they printed something, and then they handed off to the next person, and they took the inspiration from that print and printed something else. So it went from, it passed through eight hands. Same thing with the story. We made the story, like somebody, I can’t remember what year we started it at, but let’s say it started at year 2000. Then the next person would be year 2020 and the next person would be year 2040. We would talk about how the bees, the extension of bees, how affected that time period.
Miriam Schulman:
Bees as in the insect?
Sarah Matthews:
Yes. Bees, as the insect. So, the declining of bees, how it affected what the future would hold. It was just a make believe thing about bees, but we sold all of them. We finished them all. We were the first graduating class to finish our books on time. Then we sold them all, and Yale was one of the schools that purchased it.
Miriam Schulman:
That’s incredible. I think we need to back up a little bit, because I don’t think everyone listening knows what an art book is. Could you define what that is, if that’s possible? Because I’m sure there’s multiple definitions.
Sarah Matthews:
I’m laughing because I spent literally a semester writing a paper on what an artist book was.
Miriam Schulman:
Oh, I love that.
Sarah Matthews:
It was a whole like thing. We had to defend what an artist book is. At the end of the day, I know it’s really simple, but if you think about a painting, right, you see it. You don’t have to describe it because you know it’s a painting. Take that painting and put it on paper. That person takes that painting that’s on a paper and makes a book out of it. That is an artist book. Same thing. If you wanted to print it, if you wanted to make it out of plastic, it doesn’t matter. It’s just a sculpture that tells a story that is made by an artist. That’s the simplest answer to the question.
Miriam Schulman:
So, I’m being facetious now. What’s the difference between that and an illustrated book? There’s no words, but it could have words, right?
Sarah Matthews:
That is an artist book. If the artist says it’s an artist book, that’s an artist book.
Miriam Schulman:
Okay. So it’s kind of like what is art? It’s the same kind of question.
Sarah Matthews:
Yeah, exactly.
Miriam Schulman:
You get to say it is.
Sarah Matthews:
Usually the books that I make are sculptural. If you go to my site, Mary ruths.com, M-A-R-Y R-U-T-H-S.com. They’re examples of artist books. I do that primarily because people always ask me, “What is that?” And I’m like, “Go to my website because I don’t feel like explaining it.”
Miriam Schulman:
We’re going to put a pin in that Mary Ruth thing, because I was very confused by that. I was not confused though when I went to your YouTube, which is Sarah Be Me, as in B-E, not as in the bug, and not as in the letter, but B-E, M-E. Sarah Be Me. If you there, you’ll get to see Sarah make art books with gel prints and her foam stamps. It’s basically, and it’s different than art journaling, right, or not? Or is this part of the thesis?
Sarah Matthews:
No, it’s all the same.
Miriam Schulman:
It’s all the same. It’s what we decide to call it, right?
Sarah Matthews:
Correct.
Miriam Schulman:
Yes. All right. That makes sense to me. You guys should just go check it out. It’s very inspiring. Just you can sit there for a long time and watch, going from one YouTube video to the next.
Sarah Matthews:
I know. I actually, I don’t know if you noticed, I actually stopped making YouTube videos around October-ish because I was preparing for my solo exhibitions. I haven’t made any in a long time.
Miriam Schulman:
That’s okay. They don’t need to see something from now.
Sarah Matthews:
I know. I intend to make new ones, but they won’t be for a while, FYI, but there are a hundred videos to watch.
Miriam Schulman:
There’s plenty there for people who are just discovering you for the first time.
Sarah Matthews:
Yes.
Miriam Schulman:
There’s plenty. All right, let’s go back to Mary Ruth. I’m on your website, by the way, those of you who want to build a mailing list, people are always asking me how to do it. Sarah does a really good job. Her popup says exactly what I teach people to write in their little popup. It’s not, here’s a discount code by the way. I’m not even going to tell you what it is. I want everyone to go. This is your homework. Go to SarahMatthews.com and look at her pop up and see what it says, because it’s really good. You’re welcome.
Sarah Matthews:
Thank you.
Miriam Schulman:
You’re welcome.
Sarah Matthews:
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Miriam Schulman:
But I did get confused though, when I clicked and all of a sudden I’m on Mary Ruth. I don’t understand who Mary Ruth is and what that site is. So explain that to me.
Sarah Matthews:
Okay. When you are learning to be a book artist, they always tell you to name your press. So it’s like Dolphin Press. So you name your press. So I named my press after my grandmother.
Miriam Schulman:
Oh wow. So tell us more.
Sarah Matthews:
Yeah. So when I was in my twenties, my grandmother, well my grandmother was a poet as long as I can remember, but she had an eighth grade education. Even despite that, she still wrote all the time. She was a prolific writer. She would send me her handwritten pages, because she doesn’t didn’t use a computer or a typewriter or anything, but she would send me her handwritten pages in my twenties asking me to transcribe them so she could send it to the copyright office to get them certified.
Sarah Matthews:
That’s what I did, and I sent them off. They’re all copyrighted, but we never got the chance to get her poetry book published, because she passed away. When I was getting my degree in book arts, one of the classes I took was book layout. That’s what I’m going to say. Our assignment was about memory. I believe that’s what it was, about memory. I thought about and remembered all the poetry that my grandmother had given me. So I took that, and created this poetry book based off all of her work. That was the first book that I ever made. That’s why I named my press Mary Ruth’s press.
Miriam Schulman:
Okay. I love that. That makes a lot of sense now. We all have, I had a grandmother who used to write me letters with her beautiful long hand penmanship because she was from the Victorian era where they still taught and penmanship. They don’t teach that anymore.
Sarah Matthews:
No, they don’t.
Miriam Schulman:
Did you have penmanship when you were, are you old enough to, I did too.
Sarah Matthews:
Yes. Yes. They used to measure like your Fs and the S’s, the Z, making sure that it was the same. Yeah, my kids don’t know anything about that. All they know is how to just to write their name in cursive and that’s it.
Miriam Schulman:
I actually used to get Cs in handwriting, because I was very creative with my fonts in the third grade. I went to battle with my teacher.
Sarah Matthews:
I love doing the flourishes. I always got accused, like when we were supposed to write in the print, like stop writing in cursive. I’m like, but I like the look curly cue so why can I just do that?
Miriam Schulman:
Well, I would, you remember the blue lined paper that we used?
Sarah Matthews:
Yes. Yes.
Miriam Schulman:
You were supposed to use the thick line, the two thick lines, and then there’s the dash line in the middle. I would do these like small all caps. That was my favorite font. Of course that was, that got me C’s, because that was not following the directions at all.
Sarah Matthews:
Right. I do miss those times, man. I can’t even, you look at my handwriting now. You’re like, what is that? My teachers will be appalled looking at my handwriting now.
Miriam Schulman:
Well I was appalled looking at my kids’ What are they teaching you? What are we paying these high taxes for to live in this town? They’re not even teaching you how to write.
Sarah Matthews:
Well, they’re using their laptops, especially after the pandemic. That’s the thing now. They just use their laptops.
Miriam Schulman:
Right. Well, my kids are a little older. My kids asked me what, what would you have done, mom, if we were in school during, if we were young enough during the pandemic that you had to homeschool us? I was like, oh no, honey, you would’ve had to miss a year. I would’ve checked out of that. So Sarah’s giving me the look like she didn’t check out. Sarah’s like, I was a good mom.
Sarah Matthews:
I’m barely here. But it was like, because they were in the age where they had never really used a laptop per se. So logging in, they didn’t know how to log in. They didn’t know how to send an email. They didn’t know how to get on their Google Meets. I was just literally like, oh my God.
Miriam Schulman:
Sarah, I’m sure everyone wants to find out how they can learn from you. If you go to SarahMatthews.com, what kind of art classes will they find there?
Sarah Matthews:
Block printing and bookmaking. That’s what I do. Sometimes, depends on the class, I will do printmaking on paper and then show you how to bind the pages that you printed. Sometimes it’s just like, we’re just learning how to do the structure. So it depends.
Miriam Schulman:
If you want to take any of her classes, go to SarahMatthews.com/classes.
Sarah Matthews:
Classes.
Miriam Schulman:
And you will see what’s there. I’m just looking at my notes here and I realized, I did not ask you about your solo show, Overcomer. I really wanted to ask you about that. Tell us about the title Overcomer, what that means to you. That is the title of your solo, show, right, I got that?
Sarah Matthews:
Yeah. Yes. The overcomer really was a culmination of all my feelings that were happening during the pandemic. I mean, we’d kind of laughed at it and discussed it earlier. I was really pulling my hair out, trying to figure out a way to do my work. Considering my kids, not only I had a two… one was in elementary school, I think fifth grade, and the other one was in middle school. Then my youngest was four at the time. The four year old needs constant attention. And then the other two were like, “Please let me log in. I don’t know what I’m doing. My teacher says I’m supposed to be here at 9:00 and she’s not here.” And I’m like, “Wait.” Just like when you log at a zoom today, it says the host is not here yet. We will get to you in a few minutes. This is like, please just wait, please let’s wait.
I had to like really abandon the space I had downstairs in the basement because I had set aside to do my work. But every time I would go down there, someone would call me upstairs. So I tried to build a space up here in my living room. I started making things at my dining room table at my kitchen island, because I was like, I need to make things. It’s like breathing. I need it because I can’t live without making something.
Because right before the pandemic, my classes were taking off. My classes were filling up. I was doing classes in person. Things were going well. Then it was a halt. I thought, oh, next week we’ll be out of this, but no, no.
Miriam Schulman:
We were all naive. I thought it’d be over in three months. I don’t know what…
Sarah Matthews:
Oh no, it’s still happening. Technically it’s still happening.
Miriam Schulman:
It is. It is.
Sarah Matthews:
I just was like, I don’t know what I’m going to do because I felt like I was dying inside. I don’t know how to say that. I mean, that’s what it felt like. I would wake up early in the morning and at first I’m like, oh, I’ve got one hour till they get up. Let me try and crank this out. Then that would defeat me because I couldn’t crank it out in an hour. Somebody will get up early or somebody needed something. Somebody bumped their head or whatever. I had to just go and suck it up and miss out on a thing. So then I had to break it up in pieces. Oh, today I’m going to pick the paper. Tomorrow, I’m going to pick the pinks.
I mean, breaking it up to small increments. I was determined, because I’m like, I really want a solo exhibition. That was my complete dream. I really want this thing. So since I’m home, I’m going to hunker down and yeah, the kids have a homeschool when I’m going to do this. I had no solo shows lined up. It’s not like someone said, “Hey Sarah, we want you at so and so’s gallery. No one. I’d applied and got turned down multiple times, said no. But I’m like, I’m still going to make this stuff. You know how they say, you know, you build it, they will come? That’s exactly what I did. I just started making things.
Miriam Schulman:
But then you built your own opportunity, right? Tell us about that.
Sarah Matthews:
Exactly.
Miriam Schulman:
Keep talking.
Sarah Matthews:
Because I had done one large scale print for Annemarie sculpture garden for previous show, they loved it and thought about me for their MLK Day celebration. So it’s three days where I would show the community how to make their own posters. Not necessarily carving stamps, but I showed them how to make stamps out of foam, because it’s going to be kids and families there, so it need to be easy for them to be able to navigate that printmaking space. They asked me to come and they’re like, as a result of this community project, we would like to do a solo exhibition for you. I was like, yes, finally.
The thing is, everything was already made. Just some of the things, I framed my own self with my own hands, and drove all the way to Annemarie sculpture garden, which is almost two hours one way and helped hang my work. It was 30 something pieces that I put in that. Then I had another solo exhibition in the University of Indianapolis that had like 16 pieces. So what is that? 38 plus 16 is what?
Miriam Schulman:
40? No, 54.
Sarah Matthews:
Yeah, so some of that stuff I did make when I was in school, and some of that stuff I made pre pandemic, but most of it was at my kitchen table and my living room.
Miriam Schulman:
Wow. You really manifested your own opportunity though. You kept saying to the universe, this is going to happen, and kept putting one foot in front of the other.
Sarah Matthews:
Yep. Yep. It was God, because I don’t know. I don’t know if I was going to make it mentally, but I’m glad I did. I came out on the other side and now it’s like, after the show is over, you bring home all this stuff. You’re like, okay, so what am I supposed to do with it now?
Miriam Schulman:
Do you sell it too?
Sarah Matthews:
Yeah. One piece was sold, but now I have to catalog it and get it up, get it, start farming it out to people. But that’s the next step? That’s the behind the scenes thing that artists have to do to market themselves to get things sold. Just because you do a solo exhibition doesn’t mean everybody’s going to buy everything. There’s still more work to do.
Miriam Schulman:
Yeah. And there’s seasons of our creativity. There’s a season where we create, there’s a season where we show, there’s a season when we sell, and you don’t have to do all those at one time.
Sarah Matthews:
Yeah, exactly. That’s okay. But I got my dream. So now it’s time to make a new dream.
Miriam Schulman:
That’s right, and can’t wait to find out what future Sarah does.
Sarah Matthews:
It’s a future Sarah problem.
Miriam Schulman:
Yes. Okay, don’t forget you can check out Sarah’s work and her books and her YouTube channel. You can find all those links in the show notes, schulmanart.com/192. And don’t forget, if you like this episode, then you’ll have to check out my free mindset playlist. We’ve curated the podcast episodes that focus on managing your mind. If you liked what we talked about today, you’re going to love that too. So go to schulmanart.com/playlist. And if you want to get the list of the art supplies that I use in my own art journal practice, you can go schulmanart.com/journal. We will make sure we have links to all these things in the show notes, which you can find at schulmanart.com/192.
By the way, if you are an art journal enthusiast, you want to make sure you don’t miss out on the next two episodes coming up. Next week, I’m talking to Ray [inaudible] on how she developed a certification program to train art teachers in her own art journal method. She calls it visual journaling. The week after that, I’m speaking with Abby C, who’s coming out with a book on the art of the travel journal. Believe me, you’re not going to want to miss that episode either.
Miriam Schulman:
So to prevent FOMO, make sure you hit the follow, subscribe, or the plus sign in your podcast app. So the plus sign is the one to look for if you’re on Apple podcasts or on or on iTunes. I don’t know why they made it so hard. It used to be a big old purple subscribe button. Now it’s a teeny tiny little plus sign. You’ll find it in the upper right hand corner. Make sure you hit that plus sign so you don’t miss a thing. All righty, Sarah, do you have any last words for my listeners before we call this podcast complete?
Sarah Matthews:
Yeah, I have one little thing. So after I graduated from getting my MA in art, I literally walked across the stage and then gave birth two months later to my youngest daughter. For an entire year I made nothing. I mean, literally nothing. Then I would wake up every day thinking that I was a failure because I didn’t make anything. One day I received a call for entry from Big Ink Prints. And so I submitted my information and my design, and I hadn’t carved anything for an entire year. Here is me submitting an application to carve two feet by four feet. But I did, because I’m like, I need to rip the bandaid off. Yeah, I just, I have a young baby, but I really need to do something. So I submitted it and then they sent me the confirmation that I was accepted. Then I waited to the last minute to carve my wood block the night before. I think I was carving right up until they said, “Sarah, it’s your turn.”
Miriam Schulman:
I love that. And this was the piece that ended up in Yale, the collaborative piece?
Sarah Matthews:
No, this is the piece that ended up in the Amarie sculpture garden. Solo exhibition. It’s called excellent. Sarah’s mud cloth.
Miriam Schulman:
Beautiful.
Sarah Matthews:
Because it’s a community print, because all of us are working together to print each other’s wood block. When it came off the press and we’re all holding the page, because it’s really long holding the page up, and I look as it’s being hung and I’m looking up at it, I’m like, oh I’m an artist. It wasn’t to that point where I could say to myself, well I’m finally an artist. I finally did it. That’s when I started really making things consistently every day. What I would tell everyone on this call, if you have something that you really love to do, I mean on this podcast. Why’d I say call? Because we’re on a zoom call.
Miriam Schulman:
Because you think you’re just talking to me, because I made you so comfortable.
Sarah Matthews:
Exactly. Everybody on this podcast.
Miriam Schulman:
Even with my bad jokes.
Sarah Matthews:
On this podcast, listening to this podcast. If there’s something that you really want to do, just go out and do it. Because one thing I’ve learned, especially during this pandemic, people are losing their lives and we should be able to live our life to the fullest each and every day. So go out and do it. Keep making things, no matter what it is that you desire on your heart that you want to do, just do it. Don’t hold back. Don’t be afraid. Don’t be afraid of making mistakes, because that’s the whole part of learning about yourself. Because I’ve seen so many people in the past who say to me, “I don’t want to buy such and such,” or “I don’t want to do, because I’m afraid I’ll make a mistake.” Well that’s the whole point. You got to make mistakes in order to learn so you can move forward and do more things. So keep making.
Miriam Schulman:
Yes. And also we can learn from Sarah, if it’s been a while, because for some of us, it has been hard to create during this time. Our creative inspirations have dried up. Forgive yourself for that.
Sarah Matthews:
Yeah. Give yourself some grace.
Miriam Schulman:
Okay, this is a good place to stop.
Sarah Matthews:
Sorry.
Miriam Schulman:
No, no, no, it’s good emotions. I like to feel my feelings.
Sarah Matthews:
That’s right.
Miriam Schulman:
Yeah. Makes me feel more human. Thank you so much for being with me here today.
Sarah Matthews:
You’re welcome. Thanks for having me. It was a great conversation, and we got to laugh and cackle a little bit, too.
Miriam Schulman:
I’ll make sure my editor… you’ll take care of those offensive things. My listener will never know my bad jokes, we hope. Some of them may slip through though.
Sarah Matthews:
Wait, wait a minute. How old are you?
Miriam Schulman:
There’s a Zoom filter my friend. I have a Zoom filter on. I’m 53.
Sarah Matthews:
No you’re not.
Miriam Schulman:
Sarah just like looked really close. I can turn the Zoom filter off so you can see everything.
Sarah Matthews:
Turn it off. I want to see. I cannot. I do not believe you. Cannot be. I would’ve said you were 30 something. What are you talking about?
Miriam Schulman:
Oh my gosh, I love you. No, I have a Zoom… did you know about the touch up my appearance filter on Zoom?
Sarah Matthews:
No, what is this?
Miriam Schulman:
Come on. Okay.
Sarah Matthews:
What?
Miriam Schulman:
Okay. All right. You go down to your video setting and you click on, right next to the video. It says actually no it’s not. Yeah. Yeah. So you see where it says video settings, click video settings.
Sarah Matthews:
Oh my gosh. I’m doing, I’m doing it.
Miriam Schulman:
You look 10 years younger, too. And click…
Sarah Matthews:
I’m doing it.
Miriam Schulman:
You click touch up my appearance, and then you see the slider bar?
Sarah Matthews:
Yeah, I did. I took it all the way.
Miriam Schulman:
All the way to the right.
Sarah Matthews:
I have to go all the way over here.
Miriam Schulman:
Okay. And now if you really want to do it right, also click the adjust for low light, the check box, right under [inaudible]. It’s awesome. Right?
Sarah Matthews:
We are forever. That’s it.
Miriam Schulman:
Okay. We got to do like a little, I’m going to do a print screen. All right. Now, is there anything else you want to say with this new face lift that you just got? That’s like, I know I don’t like looking at myself now unless I’m on Zoom. If somebody invites me with Microsoft teams or Skype, I’m like, no.
Okay, everyone. Thank you so much for being with me here today. We’ll see you the same time, same place next week. Stay inspired.
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