TRANSCRIPT: Ep. 206 Investing in Yourself with wildlife artist Priya Gore and Miriam Schulman

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Priya Gore:
I can sell two to three per month if I produce that much. So what I believe is, I think the most important thing for any artist is the production. You have to be fully focused on production, 80 to 85%. That’s what I’ve realized. Otherwise it becomes too, things happen. Things fall in place. If you, art is improving and if you’re spending more and more time in creating more than anything else, I think that is the most important thing for you as a brand, as anybody.

Speaker 2:
It’s The Inspiration Place Podcast with artist, Miriam showman, welcome to The Inspiration Place Podcast, an art world, insider podcast, full artists buy an artist where each week we go behind the scenes to uncover the perspiration and inspiration behind the art. And now your host, Miriam Schulman.

Miriam Schulman:
Well, hello, their passion maker. This is Miriam Schulman, your curator of inspiration. And you’re listening to episode number 206 of The Inspiration Place Podcast. We have quite an interesting guest for you today. It was against improbable odds that today’s guest would become the artist she is today. She came from a large family in a small village in India. In her community she says much of your future is already decided before you’re conceived. Either you must become a doctor or an engineer and coming from a Jewish, I totally get that. I was expected to be a doctor, an engineer, a doctor’s wife or a disappointment. I didn’t want to become a disappointment. So I became an engineer. So our guest just like myself, and maybe some of you who are listening, as a young child, had a deep love for art, but yes, she did become an engineer. However, despite the challenges of a highly technical career, and I believe she went to university of Chicago, are you-

Priya Gore:
Illinois Institute of Technology in Chicago.

Miriam Schulman:
Still not too shabby. Okay. She sought out time to sketch wherever her work took her. And eventually she settled in Australia where she started a family. The Australian wilderness and its unimaginable landscapes, tropical rainforest, and diversified wildlife inspired her to paint. Now as a new mother, she has finally left her engineering career to pursue, as she calls it, a new bold and beautiful phase of her life as a full time fine art painter. She heard about the artist incubator coaching program on Mark Sublettes Medicine Man Podcast. And she’s been a star student for the last few months, taking huge strides in raising her prices, selling high end commissions, signing with one of the largest galleries in Brisbane. And now finally coming full circle to sign with Sublettes gallery in Tucson, Arizona. You’re going to want to listen in to hear how she had such amazing success. Please. Welcome to The Inspiration Place, Priya Gora. Hello, Priya, and welcome to the show.

Priya Gore:
Oh, thank you so much, Miriam. I’m really grateful for this opportunity. You have given me to be on your podcast and it’s a pleasure just to talk to you.

Miriam Schulman:
You’re on us tour. So where are you calling in from right now?

Priya Gore:
I’m in Seattle at our friends place. So finally we have almost completed all of our strenuous hiking and walking and running kind of a trip with my daughter in the [inaudible] in the carrier. Yeah. And finally we are resting. So today’s our first completely resting day after a long, long trip of adventure and fun.

Miriam Schulman:
Very nice. And how long are you going to be traveling the U.S.?

Priya Gore:
Oh, another week. So I’ll be going to Chicago to catch up with my buddies from masters and then I’ll be catching up with you and then flying back to LA, which is our last portal before reaching home.

Miriam Schulman:
Okay. So let’s back up now a little bit. Now I know that your family wanted you to become an engineer. How did they feel about you being an artist?

Priya Gore:
Actually, they wanted me to become a doctor, so…

Miriam Schulman:
Oh, okay. You were already at disappointment anyway.

Priya Gore:
Absolutely. Yeah.

Miriam Schulman:
How much lower can you go.

Priya Gore:
I became an engineer with a lot of struggle. So we are 15 brothers and five sisters on my father’s side, cousins like cousins, but we call them brothers and sisters because we stay together, we are really close and things like that. So I’m the youngest girl in the family and all my four sisters are doctors with post-graduation and things like that. So it was a difficult part. But for me, it was really easy because I could have never become a doctor. I was a very, very passionate, happy maths person. And I used to love drawings, graphic drawings, and things like that. Engineering was a path for me. So I really enjoyed my time in the engineering college and also my career. That was a really easy race. And eventually, the family was proud of me.

Miriam Schulman:
I didn’t enjoy it. I was like, “I like math.” And so people said, “Well if you’re good at math, you can do engineering.” Because I certainly couldn’t do doctor. I’m not good at memorizing, lots of facts.

Priya Gore:
I’m not good at seeing blood and dissecting people. No, I can’t do it because both my parents are doctors and we used to stay like our home was on top of our hospital. So they had a three story hospital and fourth story was our home. So I have gone through the whole thing. My mom was a gynecologist and my dad is orthopedic surgeon. So have seen all the traumatic things growing up. So medicine is something I really wanted to stay away from.

Miriam Schulman:
Okay. So then let’s now talk about Australia. One thing that I find really amazing about you and this is part of your success, we haven’t actually discussed this Priya, but one of the things that really makes you successful is you are very focused on a genre for your art and a style. Could you tell our listeners what that is?

Priya Gore:
Yeah. So growing up I used to paint everything and anything I could see, but from last almost two to three years, I’m just stuck with birds. I’m not doing it intentionally. I’m really not able to get over them. I’m just exploring and exploring. And I can see that I am going to take few more years, at least because there is so much to explore. They are constantly moving, they gather in numbers, they are flying, they’re on top of the tree. There are so many compositions you can make out of that subject. And there are so many varieties of them. So it’s just colors. Colors is something which we all are fascinated by, the birds and the colorful birds. And especially in Australia, it’s just unbelievably beautiful.

The kind of colors we have there. Some of my friends and family from India, they feel that it’s photoshopped. When I share photo with them or something like that, they are like, “No, such birds cannot exist.” It’s that beautiful. So I don’t know. I’m just not able to get over them. That’s the problem. So that’s why I’m just painting birds. I never even knew that’s the very popular subject for selling paintings. I came to know about that when you actually made me realize that somehow I have picked the right one.

Miriam Schulman:
Well, I don’t want to mislead our listeners. It’s not, yes, birds are definitely popular and there used to be an expression about 15 years ago in the licensing industry, “If you want to make more money, put a bird on it.” I don’t know if that is still necessarily true, but what I do know to be true is having a niche and really understanding what that is. And a focus style will make you more successful because that is what’s going to lead to repeat collectors, which you can talk about because somebody who wants a bird painting and then wants a second bird painting you, they don’t want to come back to you and find out now you’re painting ice cream cone.

Priya Gore:
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. And I think I still don’t understand them even a little bit. I think there is so much more to understand because every gesture is different every time you tackle a new painting. It is not something which comes really easily. You still have to think about the composition and everything and sometimes it comes easily. But yeah, I don’t think it’s about easy or challenging, but it’s just about, I enjoy the process and I still don’t understand the whole anatomic completely. Maybe it’s still a learning thing for me.

Miriam Schulman:
Can you share a story about a repeat collector who came back for more bird paintings?

Priya Gore:
Oh.

Miriam Schulman:
Is it hard to pick one?

Priya Gore:
I can’t think of any, I have a repeat collector who came, yeah there were birds in those paintings. So before getting onto birds, I used to paint an animal and a bird in a painting. There was some concept, it was called, Hello From The Other Side series. So there was an animal and a bird from different continents talking to each other. They may be helping each other or they maybe just giving some models or emotional support to each, something like that. The story was always there. So there was a repeat collector back in Melbourne who has bought nine paintings in that series. So almost all of them, except one who was grabbed by somebody else, as soon as I uploaded. So it was really flattering. Actually, those was one of my first few paintings, like 10, 20 paintings, which I did, those were from that collection.

Miriam Schulman:
Okay. And then the other thing I was very interested in hearing about is you have had a lot of success selling through Bluethumb. Now, Bluethumb, is that only available for Australian?

Priya Gore:
Yeah. So it’s available world for worldwide collectors, but the artists they represent, they have to be from Australia. So Australians. Yeah. So it’s for Australian artists.

Miriam Schulman:
But one thing I found very interesting is that you had shared with me that you had started out selling there, but didn’t have a lot of success until you started investing in advertising.

Priya Gore:
Correct, correct. Yeah.

Miriam Schulman:
Can you tell me more about that.

Priya Gore:
Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Bluethumb has this concept because they don’t charge a lot of commission. Right. So to be frank, they charge something around 30% and then they pay for the shipping. It’s a really nice setup. It’s very supportive for a new artist who is just starting out. If you want to invest more, you can do paid advertising with them. So they will just take a really small portion from you. And they will do a month long advertisement, especially focused for that artist and the style and things like that. And they have the experts and marketing strategists who can put everything together. So once I started doing that, I found it was really consistent sales one after the other. And my followers also through Bluethumb increased all across the Australian continent. And also I got few international followers, for example from U.S., one of the collectors initially was from U.S.

Miriam Schulman:
Okay. Now tell us how that works. When you sell a painting, you said they ship. So get a notification, I assume by email, “Yay. You’ve made a sale.” Then what happens

Priya Gore:
Actually the fun part about Bluethumb is you wake up in the morning and you get a text message from them, “Congratulations, your artwork is sold,” and then you click the link. It’s very streamlined. The whole platform is set up very artist friendly and collector friendly. So it’s perfect. I think it’s one of the best platforms I have seen for an online art gallery. Once you click on that link, you just go there and you put very few crisp details. So you pick up a carrier who you want it can be your choice. Or if that is not available, then Bluethumb just assigns something. And then you pick up a day and time for collection. So you just take care of the packing. You make the package ready at home. You can put it at your friend’s place if you’re going somewhere or if you have some other plans and put the address there. So the carrier will come, the courier company will come and pick it up. That’s it on the time and daytime.

Miriam Schulman:
You have to package it into a crate. So tell us how you’re shipping internationally. Have crates made. Do you use a box? What are you using for that?

Priya Gore:
International packaging, we have a professional packers and send, so I use a company in Australia called PACK & SEND, they charge a minimal amount for packaging, but they charge a heavy amount for shipping because it’s international shipping, it’s express and they have tie ups with DHL express and things like that. But once you give the painting to them, you are hassle free because they know that and they specialize in art moving. So what they do is they know that there has to be a certain kind of a paper, which goes on the top. And then there are multiple layers of bubble wrap and then multiple layers of cardboard. Sometimes it depends on the painting also. So that’s what they do. They’re good at it. So I just rely on them. I don’t try to do everything myself. A lot of times.

Miriam Schulman:
I love that. Okay. So now what I know people are wondering, is it worth it? So Priya, do you mind? And we know the answer is yes, but would you mind breaking down for us, a sale that you made, how much it cost you for the shipping and then would you break that down because [inaudible].

Priya Gore:
Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. So, like if a painting is of $5,000, right. Let’s consider that. So what happens is if I sell it directly, then it’s a different game, but yeah. Let’s consider if I sell it through Bluethumb or through gallery or something like that. Right. So if it’s through Bluethumb, then it’s like, you did a 30% commission out of it.

Miriam Schulman:
Okay. So I’m, we’re going to do the math for our listeners. I know you and I like are, are doing it right now in our heads.

Priya Gore:
Yeah, totally.

Miriam Schulman:
And by the way, I just wanted the listeners to know that Priya is now selling her artworks for 7,000, 8,000. What’s the most expensive painting you’ve sold so far?

Priya Gore:
8,000.

Miriam Schulman:
8, 000. Okay. Okay. But for this discussion, we’re going to pretend it’s a $5,000 painting. That’s a $1,500 commission to correct Bluethumb. And then would you be able to quantify how much of that went to advertising? Are they advertising you per month or is it advertising per painting? How does that work?

Priya Gore:
No, advertising me per month. So it’s about getting more followers and with Bluethumb, how it works is, the followers you have is not like Instagram followers, they are hardcore collectors. So if you get even one follower per day, it’s a huge deal. It’s really a good feeling because they’re serious about collecting or investing in art. So yeah, that’s another thing. So with that 3,500, we have left, right. So consider maybe 500. They have for shipping, which is for local Australia shipping because my paintings are big, really huge. And if it’s international, then what they do is they charge the collector some percentage for shipping. So it’s between them and the collector. It doesn’t affect the artist, which is amazing. So that is another thing. And then you have your canvas cost and your paint cost.

Miriam Schulman:
Okay. So let’s call that a $3,000 profit on the painting. And then just for a discussion, how many of these paintings would you be selling per month and then what would be your advertising budget? So like-

Priya Gore:
See, I can sell like two to three per month if I produce that much. So what I believe is I think the most important thing for any artist is the production. You have to be fully focused on production, 80 to 85%. That’s what I’ve realized. Otherwise it becomes too, things happen. Things fall in place if your art is improving and if you’re spending more and more time in creating more than anything else, I think that is the most important thing for you as a brand, as anybody. Sorry, I forgot your question. The-

Miriam Schulman:
Okay. I’m doing the math for them still, Priya is selling about three of these paintings a month, which is 9,000, which is a six figure salary per year. Because nine times 12 is $108, 000 advertising budget.

Priya Gore:
That’s advertising with Bluethumb is extremely minimal. So for four weeks or they choose how the advertising is going, how the results, because they get the commission. So they have that strategy. So sometimes with the same amount they continue for four weeks. Sometimes they extend it till six weeks by putting some amount from their pocket, but they will charge the artist the same, because if it is benefiting them, then they’re going to invest a tiny bit as well, which is really, really intelligent and dynamic marketing strategy, which they have. So the amount is $225 for four weeks of constant advertising. which is nothing compared to-

Miriam Schulman:
That’s amazing. That’s amazing. Okay. Priya has been selling paintings all over the world. One thing that I want the listeners to understand is what she just said is she gambled on herself and invested in herself first. And once she made that investment and that gamble on herself and it paid off, then the company Bluethumb, they want to make money. Companies want to make money. So they invested in her as well, which actually, by the way, is something we see all of these venues do. So if Etsy has a top seller, they will put that seller in their newsletter. They will talk about them on social media. That’s something that happened with Congdon in her career that she invested in herself, but when she had success, they invested in her because it made them look good. Lisa used to be on Etsy. I don’t believe she’s on Etsy anymore, but there’s a lot of artists like that, that when you invest in herself, other people will get behind you.

Priya Gore:
Absolutely. So last year, that’s what I decided. Because if I’m having such a good run with Bluethumb, what I decided is why can’t I just keep it going for the whole year? As a strategy, it’s the best strategy one can have and where everything is delegated. I don’t have to supply them any material. They use photos and everything through my profile where I keep on uploading new artwork. But what happened this year is I had multiple sales through my own website. And then I had some gallery associations. And I had my advertising going on, but there wasn’t much art at all on Bluethumb. Literally there are few paintings on Bluethumb, two to three now actually. So it’s going on, I’m getting followers, but there is not much on there. That’s the whole thing. Now production has to be the focus for me. I think that’s the most important thing.

Miriam Schulman:
Well, that’s what we talk about with the passion to profit framework. Production is number one, if you’re not producing three large paintings a month, you’re not going to have a six figure salary. If you’re not charging at least $5,000 for those three paintings prices. You’re not going to have a six figure salary. Now Priya is now in the position that because her sales are keeping up with her production, she can continue to raise her prices. And that’s why she’s able to sell a painting for $8,000. It’s because the collectors, see that they go very quickly.

Priya Gore:
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Miriam Schulman:
And when you’re in that position, you can raise your prices. Okay. Now we’re going to talk about your gallery representation.

Priya Gore:
Yeah. Yeah.

Miriam Schulman:
Super fun.

Priya Gore:
So you want me to talk about the U.S. one?

Miriam Schulman:
Let’s talk about Brisbane first. Because one thing I want them to know is that I know you really had your eye on Mark Sublette and his Medicine Man gallery, and they already, the spoiler alert, they were paying attention to introduction. They know you have representation now. Because I told them. But one thing they don’t know is I had said to you, it’s going to be difficult to get representation in the U.S. before you have representation in Australia.

Priya Gore:
Correct.

Miriam Schulman:
But now you have that and so let’s talk about that first.

Priya Gore:
Actually what happened is I invested in a TV show. So I applied for one of the TV shows, which was Australia based Graham Stevenson is the founder and director of that TV show. He’s a really a popular, famous, legendary artist we have had, he spent all his life in promoting artists and marketing them and putting their names out there and stories out there properly, in a very systematic manner. So when I moved to Australia, I was a big follower of his show and I actually follow a few of the artists he had interviewed. Like Katherine castle is one of the great acrylic bird painter we have. And her art is everywhere, on all the merchandise in any the boutiques and things like that in Australia. So everybody knows her art.

And when I saw her on that show, I really was tuned to the show. So I never thought one day I’ll get an opportunity. I just applied to the show and then they accepted it. And then we went through the shoot and everything happened. What happened is the next shoot they had was with Red Hill gallery. I had some connection through that show with the gallery. So the people who shot my show and their show, they spoke about my art with them, but still nothing happened. Then Miriam Schulman gave me an idea that I should be sending them a postcard again. So I send them this postcard with my art on one side and just saying, “Hello, I’m an artist. And I’m a local artist,” and things like, “I love artist you represent.”

And you know, that’s it, “I would like to stop by and say hi to you one day,” and nothing else. So I send the postcard and the same day she receives the postcard. I get a call from the gallery manager that, “Our director would love to speak to you. And she’s interested in your art and she’s interested in representing you,” like right away on the phone call. And then when I went there, she talked really highly off the postcard again. And she said, “It’s the postcard which hit me, the painting I just loved it.” And we had the initial discussion, all the formalities and that’s it. I was on board. She wanted eight paintings right away from me. And it was good timing because I was coming here and I didn’t have to keep anything on hold on my website or on Bluethumb. And she took them all.

Miriam Schulman:
Didn’t have to bribe a friend to hack it from paintings. You just like [inaudible] gallery. So there’s a couple things I want people to hear. Obviously Priya has amazing artwork. So none of the strategy would’ve worked, if you didn’t so kudos to you on that. But do you know how many people I tell to do things and they don’t listen to me? Whether they’re just listeners on this podcast or people who I coach and so kudos to you also for listening to a good idea, because a lot of people are like, “A postcard. Shouldn’t it be an email? Shouldn’t it be a formal letter? Shouldn’t I send them a package.” I was like, “No, you send them a postcard.” Okay. Let’s go to like chapter two of the story. So Priya said, “Okay, now I’m going to the U.S., what do I do?” And Priya what did I tell you to do? And what happened?

Priya Gore:
So Miriam again, to go back, right? I really, really believe, really believe that people should seriously not think of themselves as know at all. I really believe that there are a range of different fortes, which everybody have. And then you have to just keep shut and listen to that person. I really believe that you are knowledgeable at what you do and what you tell artists. And you are coming from a really right place. And you really want to help passionately, you want to share.

Miriam Schulman:
I really care. And I’m like yesterday, I said to my husband, “The best thing happened.” He said, “What?” I said, “My client got another gallery.” To me, it’s the best joy to help you have success.

Priya Gore:
And, and I can feel that energy. I can feel that energy, that positivity from you, which I feel from my husband also, because he’s very supportive. He’s always that go getter. And he pushes me a lot. And I can feel that from you. I can feel that from your mindset coach, who is unbelievable, Sean, she is really good. She has been helping me a lot. I think there is a personal connection with Sean for every artist in your university. So it’s really amazing. So with the second experience, what happened is I was aiming for five to 10 years of my goal, long term goal that, because I was following Mark Sublettes podcast, Art Dealer Diary.

Miriam Schulman:
That’s right. So it’s not called the Medicine Man Podcast.

Priya Gore:
No, no. It’s actually called the Art Dealers Diary Podcast.

Miriam Schulman:
Okay.

Priya Gore:
Because he interviews, not just artists. He interviews the curators, he interviews museum directors and gallery owners and everybody, anybody associated with art. So it’s very interesting because it’s not just artists, it’s all these other avenues, which usually artists are not aware of. So I really enjoyed listening to his podcast while I paint. So I was listening to his podcast and he interviewed you. That’s how I came to know about you. And it’s just because you just told me that, “Priya don’t expect anything. Just send him again, your postcard don’t rely on the email only thing,” or just “Send a postcard,” and it’ll reach him and just say, “Hi, that I’m coming to you. I’m coming all the way from Australia to Tucson, with my husband and a little toddler. And I’m a big fan of your podcast and the artist you represent,” and that’s it.

And there was nothing else to it. And when I was on Brisbane airport, checking in and taking my flight to LA, I received this email that Mark wants to interview you for podcast. And there was not much written in that email. And I was like, “This is a spam,” and “This cannot happen.” And I asked my husband to pinch me or slap me to like, it’s not true. And he’s like, “It is true.” He has emailed you. And not he, but his marketing guy, he emailed me and I just couldn’t believe throughout the flight. And when we landed, we went to his gallery and I just took a selfie. I shot a video before entering the gallery that I’m going to this place. And I’m so excited. And then when I entered, oh my gosh, like I have goosebumps.

The artists he presents. I was humbled to the core. And I was like, “Like I want to reach here someday.” It’s so beautiful. You’re entering in different world because all I have been to is public galleries and public museums. Not such a beautiful, huge private gallery. And it was really nice experience. And I was asked to wait that Mark is out, he’s coming. And I’m like, “Maybe he’s not in the mood to interview me. He won’t,” and things like that. I had a lot of doubts because things were happening really fast for me. I couldn’t believe that this was something-

Miriam Schulman:
[inaudible] had caught up to what was really happening.

Priya Gore:
Absolutely. And when we sat, his marketing guy set up the cameras and he was sitting in front. And then I asked him, frankly, that I’m really nervous. And I cannot believe because yesterday I was listening to your podcast and within a day I get this email and I’m here. And why do you want to interview me? I’m really puzzled because I don’t think anybody finds their stories interesting enough. I don’t know. And then he gave me a really beautiful, that it synced with him because even he was into medicine and how he switched to art and curation and art dealership dealing and things like that. And yeah, he was really interested. So that podcast is also coming up soon. So he wants my art to be in his gallery before releasing the podcast, because he said that it’ll be the really nice timing because he can say at the end of the podcast that I have this artist on board and her artwork is in my gallery. You guys can come and check it out, something like that.

Miriam Schulman:
So it’s kind of what we said before, when you invest in yourself, people will invest in you and they invest in you because they make money from it. So he wants to make money from it. So of course he’s going to time it that way, because that’s the best way for him to promote your art is-

Priya Gore:
Absolutely.

Miriam Schulman:
-through his podcast. Now there’s a couple things that our listeners don’t know that I just want to kind of underline. So some of the work that we did together was making sure you’re about page really featured your story in a way that’s compelling to someone who’s an art collector. And that is part of what Mark connected with. And the other thing he told me that he shared with you is that if you had sent an email, he probably wouldn’t have given it the attention that he did, a physical postcard.

Priya Gore:
Wow.

Miriam Schulman:
What else about that?

Priya Gore:
Yeah, actually yeah. Everything is really humbling. And what he said is I still cannot believe because I really regard all of these people on a, I put them on pedestal. So all the artists he present. So when he saw the postcard, he found it so beautiful that he shared it with his wife who just loved it. And then they both went to my website one evening and checked it out. And they loved few of the pieces. One of the pieces they’ve loved so much that he’s like, “Next, Hyacinth Macau painting you do. I want it at my home,” and things like that. And I’m like, of course he’s serious. Of course, he’s not saying this for the sake of saying he’s Mark Sublette.

So it was really, really flattering. And it gave me such a boost. It hasn’t given me any pride feeling or anything. I’m just filled with so much inspiration that I just want to go back and throw paint on the canvas and create something amazing now. I’m so excited for this journey, Miriam, because everything is happening so fast, but my core is my painting. I have to go and express my happiness, my excitement, everything I have to just keep it together and put it on canvas. That’s the way I want to communicate.

Miriam Schulman:
All right. So I want everyone to check out your beautiful art, which they can find at Karibu Fine Art. Can you spell that for everyone please?

Priya Gore:
Yeah, sure. It’s K-A-R-I-B-U. So it’s Karibu, it means welcome in Swahili language of Masai people in Africa. So it has come from my Africa visit of national parks and all the safari games we did.

Miriam Schulman:
Okay. So I will make sure to link to Priya’s website, as well as all her social media places in our show notes. And we will also link with the interview on Art Dealer Diaries, that Mark did of me. And I’m not quite sure the timing of this podcast versus his, if yours is out by then, we will make sure to link that one as well. I have a feeling this one’s going to come out before his though, because-

Priya Gore:
Maybe because I have to go back painting. It’s going to take few months Miriam for sure.

Miriam Schulman:
So it won’t be there yet, but it’s going to be amazing. Do you have any last words for our listeners?

Priya Gore:
See Miriam. I would like to stay a big, big, thank you to you seriously, because actually thank you to Mark as well, because of Mark, I came to know about you and because of you, the whole thing has changed. I think the most important thing has changed is the mindset. It’s beautiful things with Sean just yesterday, she was talking about why you should celebrate everything in life. Any achievement, especially when you’re a business person, why you have to celebrate it because you have to tell this to yourself every day, “That I am my ancestors wildest dream.” So it was like unbelievably beautiful quote. I felt. And I really actually, I think everybody I shared that with resonated with that quote totally because where people used to ride bicycle for 20 kilometers, do farming and things like that, they would have never thought that their grandchild is going to go somewhere and travel around the world and explore all of these things.

And it’s just I think anything we are doing today in this world is worth celebrating. I really believe that achieving something, accomplishing something and celebrating is breathing in and breathing out what Sean was saying. And that is my last word. I would like all the artists to follow that particular thing it’s not about just making money or it’s not about working hard or exhausting yourself. It’s about expressing and then celebrating through that whole process.

Miriam Schulman:
I love that. All right. And don’t forget if you liked this episode and you want the same results as Priya. You have to check out the artist incubator coaching program. I’ve got few tracks for those who want to go on their self-pace there’s self-study the mastermind level is by application only that is a gated program because I only accept artists who are ready for the advice that I am giving them for both programs, though, you can go to schulmanart.com/biz as in B-I-Z. All right, my friend, thank you so much for being with me here today. I’ll see you the same time, same place next week. Stay inspired.

Speaker 2:
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