
with host artist Miriam Schulman
Why do restorative naps, long walks, vigorous exercise and lengthy vacation all help creative people do great work? Dr. Alex Soojung-Kim Pang is an expert on how rest plays a key role in creativity. He is the author of Rest: Why You Get More Done When You Work Less. He is the founder of The Restful Company and a visiting scholar at Stanford University. Drawing on neuroscience, psychology and history his research demonstrates that many accomplished people use rest in ways that help them be more creative. In this episode he talks about how to make rest work for you.
In this podcast, you will discover…
- (01:40) How Alex’s book reaffirmed my parenting ideas
- (03:34) What deliberate rest is and what it’s benefits are
- (06:07) Is stopping work to check Instagram restful?
- (07:09) That there is a limit to the amount of focused work we can do
- (09:30) How rest is a partner to the work
- (11:57) The role of routines in organizing your time and setting priorities
- (15:12) Strategies to keep your inner critic at bay when doing creative work
- (17:02) Does listening to podcasts while you walk limit the potential for creative ideas?
- (18:48) How music can help recovery
- (20:20) A discussion on whether sexuality has an impact on creativity
- (23:24) How Alex is researching companies have put some of ideas about rest into practice
- (24:56) How more hours doesn’t necessarily mean more productivity
Links Mentioned
- Rest: Why You Get More Done When You Work Less by Alex Soojung-Kim Pang
- Rest With Alex Podcast
- Deliberate Rest
- The Restful Company
About Alex
Alex Soojung-Kim Pang is a futurist and author. His latest book, REST: WHY YOU GET MORE DONE WHEN YOU WORK LESS, explores the hidden role rest plays in the success of super-creative and -productive people, explains how findings in neuroscience and psychology explain why leisure stimulates novel thinking, and shows how we can apply these lessons in our own creative lives. His previous book, THE DISTRACTION ADDICTION, dealt with technology, addiction, and distraction. Together, they have been translated into 14 languages. His latest project shows how companies can move to 30- or 32-hour weeks without sacrificing productivity or profitability. He has a Ph.D. in the history and sociology of science from the University of Pennsylvania, and is a visiting scholar at Stanford University.
- REST on Amazon
- Deliberate Rest Blog
- Rest with Alex Pang podcast
- Twitter: @askpang
- Instagram: @askpang
About the host, Miriam Schulman
In case we haven’t met yet, I’m an artist and founder of The Inspiration Place, where I help other artists learn how to profit from their passion. Through online classes, business coaching programs, and a top-ranked podcast, I’ve helped thousands of artists around the world develop their skill sets and create more time and freedom to do what they love. My signature coaching program, The Artist Incubator, helps artists go from so-so sales to sold-out collections.
After witnessing 9/11, I abandoned a lucrative hedge fund job to work on my art full time. Since then, my art and story have been featured in major publications including Forbes, What Women Create, The New York Times, Art of Man, Art Journaling magazine, Professional Artist Magazine, Igniting Creativity as well as featured on NBC’s “Parenthood” and the Amazon series “Hunters” with Al Pacino. Check out my best-selling book with HarperCollins Leadership, Artpreneur: The Step-by-Step Guide to Making a Sustainable Living From Your Creativity, wherever books are sold. When I’m not in the studio, I split my time between New York City and a farmhouse in the country. I’d love to invite you to check out one of my free resources for art lovers (of every passion level) at schulmanart.com/freebies
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Listener shout out of the week!
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Chelsea Artpreneur Studio · New York City
What’s the biggest bottleneck holding your art business back?
Maybe it feels like pricing. Maybe it’s finding the right collectors, choosing the right opportunities, or figuring out what deserves your attention next. Or maybe you can see 3 different directions your business could go, and you’re tired of guessing which one is right.
That’s what we’re working on at the Chelsea Artpreneur Studio, October 28–29 in New York City.
This isn’t a conference or another workshop where you leave with forty new ideas. I’m bringing together a small group of established artists for two days of hands-on strategy built around the actual problems you bring into the room. We’ll look at your business, figure out what’s really holding it back, make the decisions, and map out exactly what comes next.
You’ll also have a professional branding portrait session, plus plenty of time around the table with a small group of artists who take their businesses as seriously as you do.
You’ll leave knowing what’s actually holding your business back, what needs to change, and most of all, what to do next.
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Hi Miriam,
Thank you very much for creating this podcast. Very helpful and great talks by yourself and great people.
I have a one feedback, sometimes it is organic that you talk and add to what they are saying but sometimes you interrupt the speaker before they conclude what they are saying and they move on to responding to the new thing you just said, without completing what they were on. Sometimes it’s a loss for your listener. This is not to critic, only if it helps plz consider giving few seconds before you progress the conversation to new directions.
I have tried to catch up and listen to all your podcasts. Most have been informative. All have been enjoyable. Thank you so much for all that you share. What a wonderful resource for so many of us that have other jobs outside of their art work or can’t afford to take workshops and classes that often. Thanks for all you do.